Character Consistency in Stories

I was listening to a podcast review of Star Trek: Into Darkness and I was a little surprised to hear some of the people on the show say they felt some of the characters were inconsistent from who they were in the 2009 film.  Likewise, I have also heard some complain that Tony Stark was inconsistent in Iron Man 3 compared to how he was before.

I disagree with both of these viewpoints, but it did get me to thinking about consistency in characters in stories (primarily from movie to movie). Just when is the character experiencing a natural change in their arc, and when is it just out of character? Personally, I found Elizabeth and Will wildly inconsistent in the second and third Pirates of the Caribbean movies as to who they were in the first one. But I know people who disagree. Why do some of us accept certain character changes and some of us not?


Bones contemplates this for us…

The Consistency of the Story

I think part of it is how you view the story overall. For instance, I thought the second POTC movie was a ridiculous rehash of jokes from the first and that the third movie got way too serious. The first story was such a fun romp and I felt the next two films deviated from what made the first one so good. Since I did not enjoy the plots of the story and the twists that were happening, I felt that the characters themselves were taking actions that were not consistent with how I viewed them in the first movie.

In the 2009 Star Trek film, Kirk is cocky and confident, much like Tony Stark is in Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and The Avengers. With Tony, I think we start to see him change in The Avengers, when he makes the decision to sacrifice himself (though ultimately he makes it out fine) to save all the others. In Iron Man 3, he is wrestling with what he experienced in that moment: being worried about Pepper, shocked by the fact that aliens are real, etc. I could see the thread of what happened. And he still certainly had plenty of Tony Stark moments.


With the Star Trek films, I admit it’s not as clear cut. At the end of 2009, Kirk gets the Captain’s chair at an extremely young age and with virtually no experience. In Into Darkness, he appears to be much the same, taking big risks with the belief that it will always work out fine. He gets lectured that it won’t always be fine, but none of that means much until he (SPOILERS for the rest of this paragraph) sees Pike die. Pike is like a father to Kirk, so his death really rocks his world. He wants to hunt down the man responsible, but he also has to learn what risks are necessary and which ones are not. It’s hard to fit so much change in a two hour film without it feeling too forced, but at the end Kirk makes a decision like Tony does. Maybe there could have been better ways to develop these two plot lines, but for me, they were fine. But I also embraced the entirety of their stories.


If a story is filled with plot holes and weird twists that no one believes, people are not likely to buy into what the character is doing either.

The Consistency of Voice

I was listening to another podcast called “Writing Excuses” (what can I say, I’m a podcast junkie), and in a recent episode they were discussing why the writing in The Avengers worked so well. One of the main things they praised about the movies was the consistent character voice, and for ALL the characters! But they said there were even a couple of times that the voice was not consistent but it was so well-played it didn’t matter. The big example of this was with Thor’s line about Loki being adopted. They said it was OK with them, even though it didn’t sound like something Thor would say, because the joke was perfect, it needed to be shared, and Thor had to be the one to deliver it.

I think this goes with the next point…

The Consistency in Tone

I think the example of Pirates of the Caribbean works well for this. I did not feel the tone of the second and third movies were not consistent with the first. And going back to The Avengers, though Thor’s joke was not consistent with his individual character voice, it was consistent with the tone of the movie and the dialogue in general.

This might be why some struggle with Iron Man 3 or Into Darkness, because both movies are a little dark than their predecessors. I personally do not find them to be such large departures, and I find the overall tones still consistent, but there is some change. I mean, among Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Avengers, and Iron Man 3, there are three different directors at work. But tone can change as the characters grow, it’s just a matter of balancing the change tone, character, and story in a way that is believable and trying to stay consistent in voice and other areas.

The Consistency in Back Story

It is extremely important for writers to remember what they (or other writers working on previous projects before them) have written about a character. Likewise, it’s important for the character to have actions that match up with their personal back story. Sometimes the writer may not know the back story for the character until a lot about the character has been written, but as long as it matches with the character’s behavior, that is fine. Kirk from the J.J.-verse is different from Roddenberry’s Kirk. This Kirk lost his father and thus grew up in a very different household. He had the same mother and he still lived in Iowa, but one major difference completely changed the way he was living his life. So when the 2009 and Into Darkness Kirk is more immature and more reckless than the original Kirk, it makes sense, because he didn’t have the same strong father figure.


When there’s a disconnect between a character’s past and their present, without a middle that connects the change between the two (which would be more backs story we would need), we find the whole character unbelievable.

But no matter how hard a writer tries to balance all of these things, not everyone is going to agree on what works and what doesn’t work. It is the nature of art.

What do you think? Who are characters that you believe show great consistency throughout their story arc? Who are some characters that you feel do not?

Revamping Stories

When we hear that Hollywood is releasing a “new” movie that is really a remake of something old, we all groan. Sometimes, this is for good reason:


I’ll admit I haven’t seen the original, but it HAS to be better than this.

But sometimes, it’s incredibly awesome:

the-dark-knight-trilogyIn my review for Cinder, I applauded the book’s unique and fresh retelling of a story we all know. When a retelling, a rebooting, or a revamping of something we’ve seen before is done right, it’s comfortable like being home, but also provides a new perspective like vacation. This has also been demonstrated well through the very successful (and rightfully so) Lizzie Bennett Diaries, the modern-day, vlog format retelling of Pride and Prejudice.

So I was quite excited when I was on Pinterest the other day and found this:

fakemovie-peanutswith the description that this was an idea for a fake Peanuts movie. I HAD to check the source for more details. Turns out the guy who created this collage has concocted a plot for a live-action movie with the Peanuts character in high school. Here is his idea: “Struggling to cope with the loss of his life-long friend and pet, Charlie Brown’s (Thieriot) high school experience has been as much of a downer as his childhood. His best friend, Linus (Lerman), is too busy obsessing over graduating early to get into the seminary to help Charlie with his problems; his sister, Sally (Osment), is boy-crazy and fundamentally worthless; his ex-girlfriend, Patty (Stone) is now an activist for whatever cause crosses her path; even his childhood pal, Marcy (Winstead), has abandoned her dorky past for pom-poms and now shuns her former friends. The only person left for him to turn to is his former enemy, Lucy (Fonseca), still hell-bent on becoming a psychiatrist. But maybe in this ocean of blackness, Charlie can find a glimmer of happiness before it’s too late.”

I am a big Peanuts fan, and I’ve always wanted to see the characters in a fresh, new way, but didn’t know how exactly… until I saw this! Granted, it could easily bomb and be terrible, but with the right writer and director I think it would be awesome!


I mean, seriously.

Here’s another one from this guy’s blog:

fakemovie-101dalmations101 Dalmatians reboot with John Krasinski and Amy Adams? Um, yes please! Most adorable movie ever! (Though there is no mention of Cruella De Vil… I think Charlize Theron would be a great choice.)

And then one more:

fakemovie-modernlittlewomenA modern day adaptation of Little Women! I want this SO BAD! His idea for the cast is as follows: Lyndsy Fonseca as Margaret “Meg” March, Emma Watson as Josephine “Jo” March, Shailene Woodley as Elizabeth “Beth” March, Elle Fanning as Amy Curtis March, and Aaron Tveit as Theodore “Laurie” Laurence. Not shabby at all!  He didn’t include the modernized plot synopsis for this one, so I think I may have to indulge my creativity and create one and save it for another post on another day.

Here’s the link to the tumblr site if you want to see more of his lovely storyboard collages of new movie ideas or of movies/characters we already know and love.

What story do you want to see revamped in a great, new way?